Voices

As most category listings on this site, this page will be a work in progress for a while.

One of the most significant stories in this whole debacle is the rising of the grass-root voices, particularly from the Chinese-American community in the US.

This page collects columns, reviews, articles, comments from various social media debunking Fu Ping's story.  For coverage in the mainstream media, please visit the Records section.


lin at Amazon

According to her review, "lin" is a mother to her daughter. She had lived through the same Cultural Revolution period in China as Fu Ping, when her own parents were sent away. From her experience and research, she instinctively recognized issues in Fu Ping's story and went on to expose them on Amazon. Her review received wide attention on Amazon and she was even publicly and personally attacked by Sir Harold Evans on The Daily Beast.
  1. Original 1-star review initially published on Amazon, January 22, 2013
  2. Subsequent 5-star review, February 18, 2013

Fang Zhouzi in China

Fang Zhouzi (方舟子) is a well known net-name in the Chinese language blogsphere, both inside China and abroad. His real name is Fang Shimin (方是民). He received graduate level education in the United States and earned a Ph. D. in biochemistry from Michigan State University in 1995. After several years of a successful research career in that field, he decided to launch a new career as a free-lance writer, splitting his time in writing popular science essays and advocating for scientific integrity. It was the latter effort made him famous as "China's Science Cop," exposing many cases of fraud. Here is an incomplete list of media reports on his efforts.

In November, 2012, British Nature and "Sense about Science" organization awarded him the inaugural John Maddox prize.

Fang Zhouzi's blogs are written in Chinese language, some of which have been translated into English by others.
  1. Fu Ping's Two Memoirs in Two Worlds, February 27, 2013 (in Chinese)
  2. The Double Faced Political Correctness of New York Times in Ping Fu Affair, February 25, 2013 (in English and Chinese)
  3. The Depravation of Sir Harold Evans, February 21, 2013 (in English and Chinese)
  4. Fu Ping's "American Legend", February 17, 2013 (in Chinese)
  5. Once Again on Fu Ping's Lies and Quibble, February 15, 2013 (in Chinese)
  6. Fu Ping's Memoir is a Clumsy Fiction Deceiving American Readers, February 13, 2013 (in Chinese)
  7. American Media's Arrogance, Prejudice, and Falsification in the Fu Ping Affair, February 8, 2013 (in Chinese)
  8. The Habitual Liar Fu Ping, February 5, 2013 (in Chinese)
  9. Fu Ping's "Clarification" is Full of Lies, February 2, 2013 (in English and Chinese)
  10. Fu Ping's "Legendary Life", Again, February 1, 2013 (in Chinese)
  11. Fu Ping's "Legendary Life", January 28, 2013 (in Chinese)

xgz at The Daily Kos

"xgz" is close to Fu Ping age-wise. He also lived through a similar path: He was born before the Cultural Revolution to parents working in academia, both of whom spent a brief period of a few weeks in the countryside during the early part of the Cultural Revolution. After the Cultural Revolution, he entered Peking University in the late 1970s and graduated in early 1980s. He came to the US around the same time as Fu Ping, and earned a Ph.D. in physics. For over twenty years since then, he has been working as a research scientist in US. He is also active outside of the academics, being a member of The Daily Kos since 2006 and having volunteered for the Obama campaign.

  1. Guardian Exposes More Lies in Ping Fu's "Memoir", February 14, 2013
  2. Why are We Suckers for Lies? A Psychological Explanation, February 10, 2013
  3. Inconsistencies in Ping Fu's Gang Rape Story, February 8, 2013
  4. Ping Fu's Fantasy Childhood Life in Communist Shanghai, February 7, 2013
  5. Racism against Chinese Americans on Clear Display in Ping Fu Affair, February 5, 2013
  6. Ping Fu's Time Traveling Machine, February 4, 2013
  7. Bend, Not Break: A Lie in Two Worlds (Part III), February 3, 2013
  8. Bend, Not Break: A Lie in Two Worlds (Part II), February 2, 2013
  9. Bend, Not Break: A Lie in Two Worlds (Part I), January 31, 2013

Other Amazon Warriors
  1. Wu Liangfu, A Comprehensive Review of Bend, Not Break, March 15, 2013
  2. Wu Liangfu, Why Has Ping Fu's Book Generated So Much Criticism? February 26, 2013
  3. Ben Locke, She may have been Successful, but her Real Life Story isn't Inspiring at all, February 21, 2013
  4. MOB: We're Helping Ping Fu to Vindicate herself out of Human Conscience, February 13, 2013
  5. cdwy300: 5 Stars for Ping Fu's Contribution to the Study of Pseudologia Fantastica, February 12, 2013
  6. Wang Dehui, Why We Won't Let it Go, February 6, 2013
  7. Yong, Ping is the most Honest People I had never Seen Before, February 3, 2013
  8. WEIQUN, Why Do I Give One Star to this Book? February 3, 2013
  9. Liu Xin, Why We Speak Up, February 1, 2013
  10. Erica Brindley's Discussion Thread, February 1, 2013
  11. Farside Z, Extremely Divergent Reviews - One Simple Truth, January 29, 2013
  12. Chris, Her Story doesn't Agree with the Photo She Provided, January 29, 2013

Other Grassroot Voices
  1. Leng Baoqing, China.org.cn, Fu's Memoir Tainted by "False Memories", July 13, 2013
  2. Christine, Shanghai Shiok, Understanding the "Unrelenting Vilification" of Ping Fu, July 2, 2013
  3. Alicia, Beijing Cream, Disgraced Author Ping Fu almost Apologizes (Again) for Memoir Inaccuracies, July 2, 2013
  4. Christine, Shanghai Shiok, Why is Ping Fu the only "Victim"?, June 30, 2013
  5. William Poy Lee, Red Room, Bent & Twice Broken: Penguin China-bashes to Protect Ping Fu's Flawed "Memoir", February 25, 2013
  6. John Kennedy, South China Morning Post, Some Vindication of Ping Fu and the Malicious Chinese Cyber Trolls "Persecuting" her with Facts, February 14, 2013
  7. Alicia, Beijing Cream, Ping Fu is Latest Memoirist Caught in Web of Exaggeration and Mistruth, February 6, 2013
  8. James Griffiths, Shanghailist, Chinese Readers Annoyed that Ping Fu's Memoir is (Allegedly) Full of Lies, February 5, 2013
  9. John Kennedy, South China Morning Post, "Liar-hunter" Fang Zhouzi Accuses Ping Fu of Selling Fake Tragedy to Americans, January 31, 2013
  10. ZiLanZhai Master (Fu Ping's former classmate), Story always belongs to those who have Stories, January 26, 2013 (in Chinese)

14 comments:

  1. Just to show support! Let facts speak for themselves.

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  2. Regardless of which version of Ping Fu’s life stories we believe, we should remind ourselves that Ping Fu’s has Constitutional rights to express herself. As a naturalized American citizen, Ping does have her freedom of speech under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. We live in a country where each individual has the right to his or her Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. In most states, convicted criminals still have the legal rights to financially benefit from their memoirs—while the readers of such memoirs can exercise their freedom of speech to express their views on the morality of profiting from such memoirs and the advisability of exposing such memoirs to their children at home.

    In some states, including North Carolina, there are Son of Sam laws prohibiting convicted criminals from publishing memoirs for profit. However, Ping Fu is not a convicted criminal. Therefore, she is legally entitled to profit from both of her self-contradictory memoirs – 1996 memoir in Chinese, and 2012 memoir in English. It is the social responsibility of reporters and news media, not controlled by any government agency, affiliated with any political party, or unduly influenced by Corporate America, to help American readers in deciding whether to use their purse strings in purchasing and supporting Ping Fu’s Bend, Not Break. Didi Kirsten Tatlow did exercise her social responsibility and showed us that, contrary to some stereotype, American journalists as a group are defenders of our Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness—the American way of life.

    Supporters of Ping Fu should also observe civility in this ongoing discussion, and respect the fact that critics of Ping Fu are also guaranteed certain Constitutional rights under the First Amendment, including the right to make comments anonymously. In Talley v. California, the United States Supreme Court struck down a Los Angeles city ordinance that made it a crime to distribute anonymous pamphlets. In McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission, the United State Supreme Court struck down an Ohio statute that made it a crime to distribute anonymous campaign literature.

    While many of Ping Fu’s readers, classmates and acquaintances are willing to support or criticize “Bend, Not Break” by providing their real names and contact information, we should not make negative comments about those seekers of truth who prefer not to be personally embroiled in a public controversy.

    Requiring public disclosure of personally identifiable information as a prerequisite to free speech is tantamount to requiring a voter to sign his or her name (or “its” name a la “Sir Harold Evans’s hermaphrodite”) on the ballot in order to vote in federal and state elections, regardless of whether Sir Harold Evans, a British national, might or might not agree with this American principle. Such requirement of personal identity would discourage free exercise of Constitutional rights, earned by American people after the American War of Independence to protect individuals from unwarranted intrusion into ordinary people’s private lives under British imperial rule.

    Finally, all of us should be grateful that we are living in the United States. Without the legal protections we enjoy as American citizens, few of us would have the courage to freely express our thoughts and observations.

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  3. Good start! We need to build a community and platform to do fact-check, to seek truth and to deter liars. It is time to start a collective efforts...

    Victor

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  4. JoshNYC..The Ping Fu scandal has lasted for about two months. It is an emotional roller-coaster for many commentators. What is the current status? The woman has lost credibility. Although she continues to seek attention, she should have realized that few will take a lightweight seriously. It is possible that she will be hackled in her entire life. Her book has not sold well. A book like this cannot do that well in the first place, but readers’ challenges to her truthfulness have further curtailed the sale. The Chinese community has been mobilized so that they will be more active and civic-minded. The reputation of American journalism has been damaged, and it would take time and efforts to redeem itself.

    To seek apology from this woman is meaningless. Can you believe anything coming out of her mouth? If she apologized, many commentators might be too nice to accept it. All truth-seekers want is to have an official record that the book is not a non-fiction. A class action lawsuit may be in order, and the case against Armstrong should provide some guidance. It is not unlikely that the Penguin Book will conduct internal review after it has sold much of its inventory. It is hard to believe that such a well-established company will continue to ignore readers’ outrage. Time is on the side of the truth. Persistence and patience are required.

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  5. hal mckissicksanford nc..I recently finished reading her book and thougt it excellent. So she
    made a few minstakes. Who doesn't.?
    The fact that she started from such adverse beginnings and rose to
    the top in the business world is remarkabe. We can never have too
    many individuals like Ms. Fu.

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  6. JohnMI..fcosi,

    Whether Ping Fu made up the stories out of insane mind or out of deliberate calculation for personal gains (fame, money and power), we need explanations and responsible reaction from her, her publisher and her powerful team. Yes, we are driving ourselves crazy pointing out the obvious lies, but we are excising our due citizen rights to protect democracy, protect innocent readers, and protect our taxpayers from any frauds. I am sure Ping Fu's team and her publisher by now must have believed us that Ping Fu lied (I doubt they are as stupid as you said to still think the Emperor's naked body is beautifully clothed in new clothes). They are just vested interest groups, whether it is money or reputation, that they will stand by Ping Fu until they are forced to admit truth. We have a duty to stand by truth and not give up in frustration.

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  7. Praise The Lady

    1. She who has family ties to The Father of China;
    2. She who witnessed atrocities no one else recorded;
    3. She who published an article in People's Daily, when and where no one else could;
    4. She who caused UN sanction against China, when UN cannot even do it;
    5. She who was arrested in a way only 007 could experience in the movie;
    6. She who was released thanks to Paramount leader Deng, Xiaoping;
    7. She who was exiled to the US when even the most famous political dissident had to wait for decades in prison before US government's intervention to make it happen;
    8. She who was immediately kidnapped and very soon rescued without any police record;
    9. She who can make full conversation with only 3 English words;
    10. She who can secure green card in 3 years which takes others at least 5 years;
    11. She who had full credit of a company founded and supported by a hidden former husband;
    12. She who nurtured the inventor of internet browser;
    13. She who can save US by 3D printing produces that used to be made in China;
    14. She who is already promoting 3D printing meat at home;
    15. She who has a heart so big to even love critics she labeled "internet terrorists";
    16. She who is so successful despite or thanks to the lies, distortions, exaggerations, fabrications even to this day, even to become President's advisor;
    17. She who is incredible if you choose to believe, is terrific if you choose to admire, is inspirational if you do not care;

    Let's praise the lady, not the lord;
    Let's also praise the land, protected by the lord, to allow such a lady to be successful, without question, or without being questioned.
    Amen

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  8. just a quick note to support. thank you very much. it's been interesting reading all these and the ones in Amazon.

    please keep up the great work.

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  9. You need to be very clear on your motivations. You want to debunk Ping because:
    a) you think cultural revolution did not happen, or not as bad, or you want to cover it up?
    b) she is cashing in on other people's misfortunes during the cultural revolution?

    I would support any work motivated by the latter (b) as that behavior is quite despicable. I actually think (b) would be the main motivation for most of your supporters.

    However, the whole campaign is being viewed as coming from the former (a).


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  10. In December 2013, Dr. Liangfu Wu et al published a book, The Bent and Broken Truth: A Pathological Analysis of Ping Fu's Rags-to-Riches Stories, that peels off the seemingly glorious coat of a super survivor. With clear and convincing evidence, this book reveals that Ms. Ping Fu was a former member of the Chinese Communist Youth League, instead of a victim of the Chinese communist regime during the Cultural Revolution. This book also shows, with clear and convincing evidence, that Ping Fu lied on her applications for federal grants and made up rags-to-riches stories to move many Americans readers.

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  11. Nancy Chen says:

    Mr. Ronald Carver,

    I admire and respect your great contribution in the fight "against segregation and for voting rights" as well as the fight "for human rights around the globe." However, I am rather disturbed by your passionate review of a book concerning a subject that you have apparently no knowledge of, and your unconditional support for a proven liar in defense of the lies she herself has already admitted is embarrassingly misguided.

    Since you mentioned Holocaust, a subject which you should feel more familiar with than the Cultural Revolution, may I assume, based on your age and experience, you must be aware of things such as fake memoirs about Holocaust? If you have never even heard about fake Holocaust memoirs, here is a link for you to see some of Ping Fu's fellow fabricators in this industry of fake "misery memoirs."
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346193/Could-twisted-holocaust-fantasists-How-people-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html

    As you can see, those fake Holocaust memoirs all told stories so touching that even well-established publishers like Penguin and celebrities like Oprah Winfrey were fooled. However, in the end they were all debunked by Holocaust scholars or survivors, just like Ping Fu's memoir was debunked by people who went through the CR. Would you label critics of fake Holocaust memoirs as defenders of the Holocaust? I hope not.

    Many Holocaust survivors are actually angry that due to the effect of those fake Holocaust memoirs, the veracity of their genuine accounts of Holocaust would be discounted. It is exactly for this reason that fake memoirs about Holocaust should never be endorsed because as Professor Weinberg put it, these "fictional accounts masquerading as true stories" are "tantamount to desecrating war graves."

    It is for the same reason that huge numbers of comments condemning Ping Fu's lies appeared under almost every media report covering Ping Fu's memoir. Many of the commentators are Chinese immigrants who survived the Cultural Revolution and are now living in North America and Europe. Reading their comments, you can feel their fury at Ping Fu because she had the guts to glorify herself at the expense of the real victims of the Cultural Revolution. Such reaction from Chinese communities around the world toward a book about the CR was quite unprecedented, as you can see many books written about China and the CR also available on Amazon were actually well received. The reason is simple: Ping Fu's "fantastic tales" so moving to unsuspecting Westerners are self-evident lies to the Chinese people.

    I am not surprised at your overflowing praise of Ping Fu's memoir because you exactly represent the readership Ping Fu has in mind for her fabricated stories: Westerners with little knowledge of China, its history, tradition, and culture. I wouldn't feel surprised at all if you told me you read her memoir with tearful eyes. Didn't Ping Fu say "It didn't matter how fantastic you made your experiences, Americans would still believe them to be true."

    I strongly suggest you read Dr. Liangfu Wu's book The Bent and Broken Truth: A Pathological Analysis of Ping Fu's Rags-to-Riches Stories (http://www.amazon.com/Bent-Broken-Truth-Rags-Riches/dp/1491026154/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top). It is very informative about the Cultural Revolution, written in a way to give non-Chinese natives a quick course on the basic background information of Ping Fu's memoir so that they can see why her "inspirational" and "incredible" life stories are actually fabricated. Unlike most five-star reviews of Ping Fu's memoir that only give empty praises of her, Dr. Wu's book demonstrated adequate research and scholarship, logical arguments, and detailed references.

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  12. http://www.amazon.com/review/RZE08W2O9SRNE/ref=cm_cr_rev_detmd_pl?ie=UTF8&asin=1591846811&cdForum=FxSLK9FNY7DRUE&cdMsgID=Mx3GO2FWIL6M54T&cdMsgNo=15&cdPage=2&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx159I7TKLNSE5M&store=books#Mx3GO2FWIL6M54T

    Posted on Jan 21, 2014 12:51:28 PM PST

    Jim says:

    We should not surprise that from time to time, there are someones popped out and pretended them know contemporary Chinese history better than those of Chinese people who participated in or suffered from that tragic period in China. When you point out their superficial knowledge of the history, they immediately assume that they have higher moral status and blindly accuse you "loyal to the communist regime are determined to trash Ping Fu and discredit her memoir." They have not shown any interests in doing some researches or they are not care of the truth at all. They are simply hypocritical.

    I have to admit that Ronald Carver had made a valid point when he said, "in every instance those fighting for justice come under vicious attacks from defenders of the status quo. It never fails, no matter how heinous the abuse. Germany has its holocaust deniers, Pol Pot has his vocal supporters. Baby Doc has his." We should add Ping Fu has hers as well.

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  13. http://www.amazon.com/review/RZE08W2O9SRNE/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1591846811&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=

    2 of 21 people found the following review helpful
    An Important Story of the Struggle for Human Rights..., January 19, 2014
    By
    Ronald Carver

    This review is from: Bend, Not Break: A Life in Two Worlds (Paperback)

    I found Ping Fu's book inspiring, well written and an important work illuminating human rights abuses during the Cultural Revolution. Does it surprise me that many loyal to the communist regime are determined to trash Ping Fu and discredit her memoir? Not at all. Since the early 1960's when I was fortunate to work with the student movement in Georgia and Mississippi fighting against segregation and for voting rights, I have spent decades fighting for human rights around the globe. And whether it was white supremacists in the Mississippi Delta, death squads in El Salvador or gangsters in Mumbai, in every instance those fighting for justice come under vicious attacks from defenders of the status quo. It never fails, no matter how heinous the abuse. Germany has its holocaust deniers, Pol Pot has his vocal supporters. Baby Doc has his. There is not a repressive, brutal regime on earth that cannot muster strident voices to attack those promoting democracy, fighting tyranny, seeking justice and freedom of expression. Critics might wish Ping Fu wrote a more nuanced book giving the thugs of the cultural revolution a break. Perhaps they would want us to keep in mind Mussolini's difficult childhood, Stalin's stomach ills, Kim Jong-un's truculent uncle. It is through personal accounts such as "Bend, Not Break" that we can feel the terror that so many in China lived through. Railing against Ping Fu won't hide the horrors of the Cultural Revolution. Nor will denying them. Unfortunately, it is easier for the defenders of the cultural revolution to organize their comrades to attack Ping Fu than it is to convince those who loved her book to rally to her support. Fortunately, the book's sales speak louder than the detractors' hysterical attacks. I can only hope that Ping Fu take precautions for her own safety and that of her family. Fanatics are dangerous.

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